Dear Therapists #3: how do we attend to our heart wanting to close?

New comment from Azra on Guest Appearance on The Courageous Life Podcast with Joshua Steinfeldt:

I'm curious about ways that we as therapist need to close during sessions with clients. Often I feel badly about it, because it makes me less present with the client as I notice it happening inwardly, and because of the closing I am less willing/wanting/ able to connect to others. Curious how you attend to this is the moment when you notice your heart wanting to close in the moment with a client as a therapist?

Hi Azra, 

This is a wonderful question and a beautiful sentiment. I hear you about feeling bad about the closing, but you have to be careful with feeling bad. Feeling bad could be a north star coming from your heart, saying I want to stay connected with them, but it could also turn into shame and should’s which might only interfere with your clarity and discernment. You’ll have to feel into which your own ‘feeling bad’ is or wants to be. 

Now as for what I do, I try not to judge the closing. I let it spark my curiosity. Why is this coming up? Is this my stuff, their stuff or something in between us? My stuff: am I preoccupied with something else? Their stuff: are they closing up because shame, embarrassment or self-consciousness is arising and I am mirroring their own closing? Something in between: are we closing up to each other because something just happened between us that wasn’t noticed or acknowledged?

Should I mention that I feel this way now and let us be curious together? Or, should I see where it goes and wait until I know that they are open to being curious about it with me? In that regard, is the ‘feeling bad’ my body’s way of warning me that they won’t receive it with curiosity? See, so much to feel into! 

As I’m awakening my curiosity, I re-read your question and return to the emotion of ‘feeling bad.’ This is the most interesting point of the conversation, not all the other technical ways in which I remain curious about my own closing. If we were talking, I would have us both feel into this part of you that feels bad. And that inquiry itself would both tend to the part of you that feels bad and return us to the state of curiosity that is all that there really is or needs to be. Then, I bet your question would evaporate and you would feel okay in the not knowing and waiting to see how things unfold. 

What do you think? Maybe?

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Disclosure: I was interviewed for the film but otherwise have no stake in the film.

Replies to Therapists #2: How can I learn to work in a raw, experiential, process-driven way?

Dr. Ham,

I felt the need to reach out to you, for one thing simply to tell you how impactful it was for me to hear your perspective on the Being Well podcast and thank you for doing so. I also wanted to see if you may be able to offer any words of wisdom about my path towards becoming a therapist. It only took me listening to about 18 minutes of the podcast before I was moved to tears. You so insightfully and powerfully vocalized so much of what I've been feeling but not fully able to put into words.  

I know deep down that I want to work with people who are seeking support for their suffering and trauma, but also overwhelmed by the idea of doing so. This is in large part because, as you so poignantly expressed on the podcast, there are no manuals, nothing specific to "do," no modalities, no diagnoses, no self-care regimens, that will truly help someone who is deeply suffering. 

In turn, this also triggers my past traumas, where great anxiety resulted from feeling out of control and helpless. This has been making me concerned that specializing in trauma work may be too triggering to me as a therapist, because I would feel dysregulated just as the client is when I can't intellectualize or manualize their suffering to make it feel "manageable." Yet I feel like ultimately, this is the type of work I want to do, and am in fact called to do. 

With that in mind, I'm wondering if you may be able to offer any feedback about how I can begin to build a foundation as a therapist-in-training to do this kind of work-- the process-driven, experiential, artistic, personalized, raw type you describe. Maybe in terms of any thoughts about being a therapist who is able to support others who are suffering while also experiencing one's own suffering (past and/or present) at the same time. 

Thank you so much for your time and consideration, and for what you are doing in the mental health field. 


Dear therapist-in-training,

I totally get what you are saying. It’s such a gift that we get to continue growing as we help others grow, and it is imperative that we do so, so we can hold and release the dark material that our clients will need to hold and release. 

I’m so happy to hear that you have an aching yearning to do this kind of work and feel conflicted and cautious about it at the same time. That is the exact right feeling you should have and that you should listen to. When I’ve lost that mix of feelings is when I myself have lost myself to pride and arrogance, which can still happen if I’m not careful. I can tell you that you are much further ahead than I was at your stage of development. I didn’t even know it was possible to work with heart and from the heart. My only inspiration when I was in training was Yalom’s work, but we never studied his techniques. I only read his books for leisure outside my academic work. 

I feel like I’ve only gotten the hang of doing this type of work in the past 5-7 years (and I started seeing clients in 1995). Maybe you won’t take as long as I did but I hope you give yourself as long as you need. 

I think you already know what you need to do to grow. The next step for us is always right in front of us, if only we would slow down and listen. Listen to our hearts and listen to our bodies. My guess is that your heart knows that you have to do more of your own work. More holding and releasing of your own traumas. More grieving and loving. More dysregulation and return. We don’t get rid of our traumas, we change our relationship to it. We let it flow through us with witness and love.

The beautiful thing is that all you can do is your own work, but know that doing your own work does work for everyone else ,and having the privilege of watching others do their own work helps us all in our own work. This is the way. A virtuous reciprocity blossoms and flaps a butterfly’s wings when our intentions are properly set to only doing the work right in front of us. The work alive in our bodies and hearts right now and nothing more. Can you feel it stirring?

I hope this is helpful and thank you for becoming who you already are.

For Therapists: How Do I Start Therapy?

Dear Dr. Jacob Ham,

Where should I start, there is so much I would like to write to you and ask you...

First of all, perhaps a little about my context: I live in Germany near the woods and the fields, very beautiful. I have been an ACT therapist with all my heart. In my small private practice I receive my clients, who are very close to my heart. I love my work and I very often doubt my abilities.

So a few weeks ago I read Stephanie Foo's book "What my bones know" and what can I say, from the moment it was about her therapy with you, I was so incredibly touched and at the same time so full of longing to do the kind of work you do with your being and work.

I have a wonderful supervisor. This week for the first time I had the courage to really show myself with the painful thoughts and doubts about our relationship (between me and my supervisor, if I am worth him supervising me etc.), tears are running down my face as I write this because it feels so important and painful at the same time. ...You gave me the necessary courage to really be vulnerable and show my insecurities, and the necessary motivation for change.

And one more thing: In a podcast episode (I think it was the "Being well" podcast), the person opposite you asked something along the lines of how you prepare for the session and you answered something like "I'm working from scratch", from moment to moment, with what shows up in the here and now, process changes, breaks, ruptures, shifts etc. This little phrase "I'm working from scratch" rings in my ears and I tried it both last week and today with my clients. Today's session was so intense, beautiful, connecting and fulfilling, and I have you to thank for that, among other things and to a decisive degree! I have also often paused with my clients to formulate a mutual intention for the session - what a powerful, centering and bonding moment, which I have also learned from you :)! Even though I am just starting out with this type of therapeutic guidance, I have now gotten a real sense of what it can feel like and I want more of it! A thousand thanks to you, Dr. Ham!

Finally, I have a small question:

What do you say to your clients in the first session about how you work? Something like informed consent, so that the client knows what they are getting into? Or do you say nothing at all concerning the way you would work with them?

Hi Julia,

Thank you so much for sharing your journey of growth as a therapist. The work can be so amazing and beautiful and yet so solitary! So few of us get to share the wonder of it with anyone else. I’m glad to be a witness to yours.

As for what I say to my clients, I try to tell them in words tailored for each person, and definitely show them through action, that the way I work is relational, meaning that I think a lot of the work happens through the here and now of our own relationship. Everything we need to know and understand shows up right here in front of us.

So, I invite them to tell me whenever they have an emotion rise up during our interaction, even the uncomfortable ones. Every emotion is a signal of something important. Sometimes, the emotions tell us that there is something bad happening in our relationship that I definitely want to make better. At other times, it tells us we are on the right track and we are moving into more emotional poignancy. Still other times, it tells us that something from the past has awakened to be witnessed, understood and released. Many times, all of these things could be happening all at once, and we have to look at any and every layer of the experience as they ascend.

In return, I will be more honest and transparent about my emotions and experiences in the relationship because they too can often signal something meaningful happening in our relationship and in the work. I won’t just say everything. I focus on sharing the things that serve the work of helping the client (and not serving my own needs).

I end by asking their permission and invitation to work this way. And, when it actually happens, I ask them how it was for them to do it. This is an act of on-going attunement and informed consent.

Sometimes, I don’t say any of this, but just ask if we can start working, and we dive in, and we do this whole process through our bodies, our expressions, and our gestures.

Hope this is helpful to you on your journey!

Jacob

My Friend's Beautiful Ibogaine Experience

My friend, Josh White, wrote a brief summary of his experience healing with the aid of ibogaine on Lucid News. It’s definitely worth a read for anyone dealing with unremitting complex trauma.

https://www.lucid.news/i-arrived-for-my-ibogaine-journey-ready-to-die-now-my-inner-child-is-free/

Ten Percent Happier Podcast Appearance with Ms. Foo and Me

Dan Harris had Stephanie Foo and me on his brilliant podcast, Ten Percent Happier. We did separate interviews. Hers is out Monday, May 23, while mine comes out Wednesday, May 25. Her episode goes over her recovery process and discusses the therapy with me in a way that feels very representative and informative. My episode is much more esoteric in that I keep refusing to be specific about approaches and tools. Still, I think it may be helpful for others to hear.

Here’s her episode. I’ll post mine on Wednesday when it drops.

New Must-Read Memoir: What My Bones Know by Stephanie Foo

Stephanie Foo, an award winning journalist, has written a beautiful memoir about her journey healing from complex trauma. A couple of chapters near the end include snippets from a brief stint of psychotherapy I provided to help her consolidate what she had learned through this journey. It’s one of those books that make you cry and cheer all on the same page.

Podcast: 20 Years of "Never Forget" | Not Past It

On the eve of 9/11, I was asked to help Simone Polanen work through her complex feelings around the event and figure out a way to talk about it in a way that helps us all talk about it… I developed such a deep admiration and appreciation for this remarkable woman and the good she is putting into the world.